Loki after someone mentions Thor: Would it kill you to put my existence first for once? I mean come on all he’s done is save people, I’VE KILLED THEM!!
Thor used to pick a fight and kill people in the past while endanger his own friends. Loki used to keep Thor out of trouble or avoid an uncecessary fight. It’s a bit ironic isn’t it?
Loki after someone mentions Thor: Would it kill you to put my existence first for once? I mean come on all he’s done is save people, I’VE KILLED THEM!!
When I read shit like this, I wonder if people are watching the same movies that I’ve watched. Or if they have paid attention at all while doing so. Thor is a violent person. He has taken MANY lives. He enjoys doing so. Not even because he is a bad guy, but because it is part of his culture. He has spent far more screen time committing violence than Loki.
Loki, on the other hand, is not a naturally violent person. It was one of the reasons he didn’t fit in so well on Asgard. He has taken lives as well. Though probably not as many as Thor. But somehow the audience comes away with this notion that Loki is this bloodthirsty killer. Even when he’s just sitting there, doing nothing, the audience is thinking “wow, he’s evil.”
As an educator, I make it my mission to teach children how to critically analyze fiction. Not only so that they can grow up to watch movies and NOT draw ridiculous conclusions like this one, but so they can apply that skill to their assessment of real life people as well.
Loki after someone mentions Thor: “Would it kill you to allow me some measure of autonomy? I am an actual person. My existence is not contingent on Thor’s existence.”
FIXED.
Thank you!
I guess this all happens because the first Avengers movie and Thor: Ragnarok are fresher and livelier in the minds of the popular collective vs Thor 1 and Thor 2.
The Avengers has Loki acting desperate after being brainwashed by a literal death cult and in Thor 3 the director (and possibly Hemsworth too?) took a machete to both Thor and Loki’s characterization in the name of humor.
It doesn’t help that many of the clues that there is more to Loki than the mask he presents in the two movies are in deleted scenes or in blink-and-you-miss-it moments that take rewatches or screencaptured-gifs for most film watchers to catch; heck, I took everything at face value the first time I watched the films until I saw tumblr posts that showed those moments!
I was surprised to find that, yes, Loki was crying real tears when he stabbed Thor in the Avengers, that he was tempted to go home with him but still hurting from what his point of view had been a colossal life-long betrayal from his whole family, Thor’s friends and even Heimdall in Thor 1, and the deleted scene in The Avengers 1 when Loki talks mentally to The Other for a second time should never have been deleted, because it showed us that Loki was being supervised 24/7 even when he wasn’t holding the Scepter, which is a game-changer in explaining what went on in that movie.
Oh, God, all the deleted scenes. We cannot have people sympathizing with Loki, that is madness.
You could argue that Thanos is written to be more sympathetic to the audience in Avengers: Infinity War than Loki was by this stage of the MCU:
“Boo hoo, I really loved Gamora even though I abused and tortured her and all my kidnapped/adopted children which I orphaned in the first place!”
“I really believe in my vision of a just world, I’m just misguided!”
There is something sad about that.
Nice input. The Infinity War writer and director are trying to make Thanos more sympathetic than Loki.
They did because these make Loki lesser devil and enjoyable than the plain villan Marvel wanted.
It’s like censoring a person’s life. These events actually occurred, they were lived (by Loki— Tom), ALL OF THE ABOVE still coincide perfectly within the canon, but were deleted to decrease sympathy. ARGHH!
I’m still dreaming of director’s cuts some day…
la la la this all happened la la la you can’t change my mind la la la
Please all the gods in every universe, let them give us directors cuts of every thor/avengers movie so we can enjoy the full Loki experience.
I legitimately can’t watch these movies without watching the deleted scenes first, because they provide so fucking much necessary context for Loki’s character and his actions and it’s absolutely insane that they were cut out of the movie. Especially the deleted scenes from Thor (2011).
Yes, especially the deleted scenes from Thor (2011) in which those scenes actually got into the documentary of Loki’s character in Marvel’s 10 years videos to explain some Loki’s motivations and characterizations.
he thought they were both gonna die moments later and i honestly can’t handle this
Thor trusted Loki.
Loki said “I assure you,” and Thor said okay, Loki, I believe you.
They’ve come full circle from “I wish I could trust you” in Dark World, where Loki’s whole heart broke in his expression when he realized that Thor truly didn’t trust him any more.
Thor trusted him here.
The Russos did not tee up this ball without a plan to swing at it.
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