Hector 110% cried when Imelda told him she was pregnant
(or then fainted maybe, idk which scenario I like better but
both are pretty plausible)
ALSO imelda being super nervous to tell him because they’re newlyweds
or maybe aren’t even married yet and when he reacts in such a positive way
she’s filled with so much love and happiness questions why she ever doubted him
Hector proceeds to run around town excitedly screaming about
how he’s going to be a dad
Un Poco Loco comes
from Imelda’s pregnancy brain (because she’s so fiery by herself, imagine her with
the emotional hormones of two people)
When Imelda starts to go into labor she and hector keep
fighting about contraction times (a la Jim and Pam in the Office episodes “The
Delivery pt 1 &2”)
Hector being frazzled and literally so stressed that
something might go wrong during the delivery that Ernesto has to calm him down
multiple times and at one point having to physically drag him from the room because you’re not helping, the midwives know what
they’re doing she’ll be fine
(Because modern medicine wasn’t a thing) imelda’s family
kept predicting that their child would be a boy because of the way her hips
were shaped and her belly size, but Imelda always kind of knew in the back of her
head the baby was a girl, and when Coco is born she feels comforted she knew
the whole time
But she’s a little worried Hector might have gotten his
hopes up for a boy but he’s like wE HAVE
A LITTLE GIRL, WHO CARES ???!1!!
SHE’S BEAUTIFUL, THANK GOD SHE DIDN’T
GET MY NOSE and Imelda just fondly rolls her eyes
Hector being afraid of holding her at first and he’s very
jumpy and it takes a lot of coaxing from Imelda to get him to be steady enough
to hold the baby without accidentally vaulting her somewhere
Uncle Ernesto
Both hector and Imelda being equally attentive and loving
parents to their precious baby girl
Neither of them wasting any time introducing music into her
life (ie: Hector carting her around the courtyard on his hip when other musicians
are playing, Imelda singing Coco to sleep every night, both harmonizing
together and dancing with her in the living room to get her to smile)
Baby Coco tugging on hector’s goatee
The first time Coco walks Hector is playing in the plaza and
Imelda is there to support him and she’s sitting with Coco on the ground and
they’re both listening but then coco pushes herself up and toddles over to her
papa and hector loses his goddamn mind
Hector trying to get Coco’s first word to be dimple, ernesto
trying for it to be chorizo, Imelda being so done with both of them because babies can’t pronounce syllables no matter how
close you stick your faces to hers you idiotas
Let me start this by saying that I define human Villains as
characters that don’t use magic or powers to do evil, they’re being bad on
their own volition using things that every day people can use, and that’s what
makes them scarier in my opinion then most of the other characters in the
Disney/Pixar Staple of Villains.
The reason I’m starting to think that Ernesto is by far and
away a great villain is because he is human in nature. It’s an interesting
situation here in Coco with how he’s presented. Unlike other villains, who don’t
have a claim to fame in the same sense as he does in world, Ernesto oozes the
whole issue of what we see on screen vs. who the actor/actress truly is. We’ve
seen in recent years that people equate a person’s character on screen to who
they are off screen. Which leads to some very awkward moments for fans and
actors alike. Ernesto has that going for him. He’s a person that shows himself
to be one way but ultimately is not as he appears. On top of that he died
young, making him a character that has the added mystique of people putting
their own views and spins on his history, and making him a tragic figure.
In Coco, we are painted a picture through Miguel’s point of
view on Ernesto. He’s being forced to not play music and so becomes infatuated
by Ernesto and sees him as a larger than life person. What’s interesting about
this is that, while the town embraces him, they also seem to be using him as a
tool for their own revenue stream. We see with his monument that there are
marigolds in there, but they are limited unlike the other grave sites. Clearly,
while the town does respect him as one of their “favorite” sons, they also only
see him as someone at a distance, an image on screen, a character and not the
real person. Miguel ups that, wanting to be like the image that Ernesto shows
the public in interviews and movies, and we see that Miguel is infatuated with
Ernesto the character that he plays and not the real person who he is.
When we finally do get to the land of the dead, again, we
see Ernesto the celebrity, and not the person. People seem to adore him as a
musician, but also are using him for their own push forward. To play at his
party is a big thing, and Ernesto seems to revel in that celebrity as we see at
the party he likes to smooze (to ingratiate himself) with some of the bigger
people in Mexican (and Spanish) history. He employees a number of people for
his event, much like he probably did in real life, and creates an event where
he makes it seem like they are important but he’s clearly the star of the show.
This much like the whole town using him for the contest and other events happening
during Day of the Dead.
But how much of this image is a cultivated thing and how
much is the real Ernesto. I propose it’s half and half.
Ernesto diving into the
water to save Miguel was a legit thing, he wasn’t doing this for fan fair and
for the audience it sets him up as a decent person, which, he at first, seems
to be. Now does this make him a good person, no by no means, but it does paint
him as more human, as we see that he can be capable of doing the right thing. However,
this only adds more to the whole fact that he is, in fact, not a good person,
but a very narcissistic, cowardly, criminal one.
Taking a look at his actions in film we can see a very
different Ernesto in regard to the real person based on his actions and what we
have to look back on after the revelation of his murderous act. So where do we
even start with finding the real Ernesto, well we have to start off at the
beginning of his career with Hector. We know both men grew up in the same town,
and given how Hector calls him his friend and such, we have to assume they are
about the same age, so likely boy hood friends, or at the very least they knew
one another growing up. If not growing up, then at least when they were teens
or older.
We know that Ernesto can sing and play on his own, this much
is clear from the movies and his actions during the party. This is important as
it puts a rather big mark on his reasoning. Ernesto is a good singer and
player, but he can’t write his own songs. He can perform Hector’s works but can’t
write them himself. Meaning that he was never trained in creating music, just
playing and possibly reading it.
This puts Hector as someone very important to
Ernesto’s goals, and he sees his friend much more as a tool and something that
he needs with him at all times. During the moment of Hector’s death, we pretty
much get that from Ernesto as he pleads with him to stay.
The thing is I think that the fact that Ernesto was good
looking, could play, and sing, probably got the attention of a lot of people in
town. Unlike Hector who, let’s be honest, while good looking, is still skinny,
tall and during the time period that they were alive, would have been seen as
gangly and unattractive for a movie star. Ernesto probably, being fed from a
young age, that he was good looking, and gifted, became more narcissistic and
probably became heavily interested in becoming a star at a young age.
From the look of the flashbacks and the films that we see,
we can assume that Ernesto got his start during the 30s and 40s, maybe into the
50s of cinema. It’s clear that the movie style is based on the period of time
of black and white cinema, but not so far back that it’s the Silent Movies.
This means that Ernesto more than likely had the goal, early on, of becoming
famous as he felt that he could never just sing for one person, that he had to
have the world love him, and that he wasn’t about to let anyone get in his way.
This adds a lot to how he is as a person. He’s determined to the point of
murder, he’s so determined to be seen as someone great and amazing and loved by
all that he’s willing to kill to get to that point and his Ego is beyond the
pale.
Which brings us to his actions with Hector. Again, assuming
that the two knew one another and were probably good friends, Ernesto more than
likely saw talent in Hector and realized how useful to him he could be. If he
were to sing Hector’s songs he could become well known, as the songs were
amazingly beautiful and meaningful. So the plan more than likely was for Hector
and Ernesto to travel to Mexico City or the surrounding area where a good
percentage of Mexican movies were being in the 1930s and 1940s. Ernesto most
likely didn’t care that much about Imelda and her relationship with Hector
outside of the fact that it could throw a wrench in his plans. We get the
impression that Imelda probably was not too keen on Hector leaving with
Ernesto, who undoubtedly made a plea to Hector about making a lot of money if
they became famous to help fund his family.
In the moment when Hector was leaving Ernesto we saw that
they were nearly at the goal that Ernesto was looking for. The duo more than
likely had traveled for quite some time, as evidence from Mama Coco’s letters.
So this wasn’t a simple case of a year or so, this was possibly a number of
year that they were on the road preforming. Eventually the fact that Hector was
home sick and realized that it was not going to happen for him and Ernesto in
regard to getting well known for their music made him want to go home. This is
where I think Ernesto’s fears and desires trumped his moral code.
We know for fact that Ernesto pleaded with Hector not to go.
Not because he was going to miss his friend, but because without Hector’s music
and skills, he was going to not have a way to make it big for himself. It
became evident to Ernesto that he didn’t need Hector if he had his song book. So
that became the obvious thing to him. Get the book from him at all costs. We
clearly see he’s willing to poison his friend, but, what makes it so much
worse, is what he does after.
He took the guitar, something that had significance to
probably Imelda, Coco and Hector. The fact that he was willing to take the
guitar, use the Guitar, and clearly care for it brings to light some info about
Ernesto that either makes him out to be a real scumbag even more, or someone
that has some semblance of guilt, no matter how small. We know the Guitar was
taken well care of. If Ernesto truly hated Hector, he probably wouldn’t have
taken it and still took care of it. However, the issue becomes why. The more
reasonable thought could be that there was a bit of guilt on his part for
killing his friend and keeping the guitar with him was a way of both keeping Hector
with him and dealing with that guilt. It was, in some subconscious way, a way
for him to say “I’m guilty of a crime” since Imelda, if she saw the movies,
probably would have recognized the guitar and, being a clever woman, possibly
would have put two and two together as Hector more than likely wouldn’t have
given away a guitar like that willingly. We also know that it was put in the
tomb for Ernesto, so clearly he did make sure that it was kept safe.
On the other hand, we’ve seen later how much of a jerk he
can really be, and that brings us to the fact that he possibly took the guitar
because it was worth a lot as a gimmick and had no regret of really killing his
friend. I’m more inclined to think it’s the later seeing how cowardly he
becomes when Imelda and the others go after him to get the picture. There’s
also the fact that his reputation trumps everything else and we also see this
in how he talks to Miguel after the big reveal and even before that.
When Ernesto first discovers that he has a grandson, his
reaction is interesting. He doesn’t deny it, and embraces it, but the look on
his face says that he both doesn’t understand and at the same time is freaking
out mentally. It’s pretty clear, given the ladies in the movies, he’s known as
a romantic lead, and it wouldn’t be that hard to believe in that period of time
that he willingly went to bed with a few different women. This means he’s probably
wondering which one he got pregnant, so clearly he probably does have some
unknown kids or a child running around if he’s willing to buy Miguel’s story
without any proof of who the woman was. He doesn’t even ask about his
grandmother. He just goes with it.
Later when he was going to give Miguel a pass back to the
land of the living, he points out that he doesn’t want people to know that
Miguel is his grandson, as if that would ruin his reputation. It’s made more blatant
that Ernesto doesn’t seem to care about anyone but himself, since, rather than
sharing all the “love” that his fans gave him, he hoards it and shows it off to
Miguel.
It’s an interesting moment because you realize how alone Ernesto really
is since if you go back to the town, while he has a lovely tomb, there is no
food or drink or wine on his alter, meaning that there was no one there other
than the locals to tend to it. So clearly the town even knew of his attitude if
they were not willing to put up more offerings on the alter.
This brings us to the point about his actions with Hector,
Miguel and the family during the ending. We see that he is willing to throw
both Hector and Miguel into a hole to hide the truth. This begs the question
of, who else did he get rid of to keep his face? If he’s willing to kill
Hector, then it’s not that big a shock that he could be willing to steal and
kill to get other roles and get rid of people he doesn’t want in his life. He
throws Miguel off the roof, and pretty much threatens the family due to, what
he believes, is his power and influence in this world. Now while I would love
to believe that he would be punished for his actions by fading. The problem is
that, while there is proof of him being a thief of music, there’s no proof of
him killing Hector. This means that there are probably people out there that
either don’t buy the idea that Ernesto stole the music, or they don’t care as
he went on to become the singer of their favorite songs.
This brings me back to the point that as far as Villains
come, Ernesto is probably one of the best human ones that Disney has had in a
long while, and I hope that people really do support him in that sense. We need
more nuanced villains in stories, and Ernesto probably will be a good start to
that.
Apologies for the inconsistencies, I’ve been working a lot lately so when I went back to it I was like wtf ANYWAYS Congrats to Coco for winning the Golden Globe for Best Animated Feature! It definitely deserved it!
“Papa Tengo sed”-I can finally make this reference and there are people who will get it! T.T oh my god you guys have no idea how long I’ve waited to make this joke.
Things I learned from the ingenious and somehow more heart wrenching Junior Novelization of Pixar’s Coco!
-Hector is truly infamous in the Land of the Dead’s Grand Central Station. The woman who stops him at the gate not only knows him by name but remembers Hector’s previous attempts to cross the marigold bridge, and has seen through all of his hair-brained schemes. She even warns him, “You know the drill…” before calling security. I wouldn’t be surprised if all the security guards placed a bet around Dia de los Muertos, All of the guards and receptionists and greeters trying to guess what Hector’s plan will be, when he’ll try to crossover, how long it takes before anyone hails him in, etc.
-Hector actually has 2 dimples, and not just one like I’d previously imagined! Though in his photo in the film, it looks like one is deeper than the other, favoring the same side as Miguel’s single dimple. But the book explicitly says he has 2.
-Shantytown and the poor souls who live in it are a treasure and Deserved Better (I wish some of their dialogue had made it into the final movie). When the deceased Riveras are tracking Miguel, they passed through shantytown and the place where Tia Chelo and her friends were playing poker, only to find that their game table is abandoned, along with other sad scenes of other souls fading away. Those poor dears… (The Land of the Dead should SERIOUSLY consider opening some kind of a Retirement home for the nearly forgotten!)
-Before going on stage and singing Poco Loco, Hector tells Miguel that the secret of the perfect performance is to sing with the people you care about in mind, like your singing to them and only them with all your heart. Hector implies that he does this whenever he sings, thinking of “someone still in the Lamd of the Living”. When Miguel finally gathers up the courage to sing, he thinks of singing to Mama Coco, the only Rivera who ever loved music as much as Miguel. Although we don’t know it at the time, in that moment, Hector and Miguel both think of the same person when they wish to Sing For The Person They Love Most. (And yes, I had to take five minutes to cry before continuing)
-Miguel once wrote a song for Ernesto de la Cruz and spent all of his allowance on a mug as offerings to his hero. Upon discovering the piles of gifts Ernesto has received from the Many ofrendas raised in his honor, he realizes Ernesto has probably never even see his offerings.
-During Hector’s flashback, he recounts how during his travels with Ernesto, he’d wake up in so many hotel rooms, all of them so alike and repetitive that he often forgot what town he was in and would feel very disorientated from homesickness. Pobrecito…
-Mama Coco never stopped thinking about her Papa, in spite of years of living under her mother’s scorn of him and music. She even pretended to dance to music that Hector used to play to her, and sang to baby Miguel! (Possibly sparking the child’s love of music) I wonder if the song she hummed to him was Remember Me… 💛💜💀 I Hope So
-It’s implied in the book that Mama Coco passed away “a few months” before Dia de los Muertos, possibly implying she died some time in July or August. Assuming that Miguel’s mother looks about 5 or 6 months pregnant earlier in the film, this could mean that the baby was born in February or March, implying that Mama Coco got to meet her baby granddaughter! At least, I hope so anyway.
-Upon finally being allowed to cross the bridge, Hector sings as he walks (in a brand new pair of Rivera shoes, blister free! Thanks to Imelda), Coco dances to his singing, and Imelda harmonizes with Hector. They can finally sing, dance, and count their blessings together, for the first time in nearly a century.
-When Miguel learns that crawlspace he used as his musical haven in the attic was the same space that Mama Coco used to dance, he finds an old pair of dance shoes she used to wear and polishes them all sparkling and new. He brings it to Mama Coco’s grave as an offering, so that she may dance to her heart’s content in the afterlife.
-Hector, in spite of being much more put together than the previous year, still carries some cheeky skeletal habits. Unseen to Miguel, he uses his own skull as a drum, and his ribs as a washboard to add more rhythm to chamaco’s music.
So yeah. This book killed me in the best possible way. 💜💛💜💛💜💛💜💛
ALSO!!!! THERES AN AUDIOBOOK FOR IT TOO, DUBBED BY THE AUTHOR!!!! AND ITS SO GOOD YOU GUYS ITS SO GOOD
Tbh I love how in Coco the characters have alebrijes that actually, like, represent them as spirit animals.
Miguel and Dante are both goofy and energetic characters loyal to each other and arguably have one of the best dynamics in the movie.
Imelda and Pepita are both stern and sassy (and powerful af) characters at the beginning of the movie that eventually both shed their cold exteriors and reveal well-intentions towards their loved ones,
Ernesto has, oddly enough, chihuahuas, which seem completely out of character when they’re first introduced. When it’s revealed that Ernesto is in fact the antagonist, it shows that he himself is like a chihuahua; sure, pretty charming and harmless at first, but underneath those adorable facades are heinous, malicious monsters.